[kwlug-disc] Trust in Musk.. or go to NextCloud

[CrankyOldBugger]

Well, I have a few thoughts.. feel free to ignore!

a) Musk is allowing free speech, but "free" is actually $8 a month now.
(yeah, I know it's free/libre confusion...)
b) Musk has also said that he will allow Trump and his cronies back on in a
few months, and we all know what a fount of BS he is, free or not.  What
sort of company makes its customers swim in a pool full of lepers?
c) The whole point behind the blue checkmark was to show that you are who
you say you are, thus cutting down on false statements from other people
but attributed to you.  Think of it as third-party verification, just like
we do with online certificates.  Although the system does have its
loopholes, I admit.

I got a Twitter account back in 2010.  I didn't use it much back then, but
I totally stayed away from it when Trump came on the political scene.  Now
that he's banned from it I thought it might be safe to explore Twitter
again.  I don't have a lot of followers but I do follow some very
informative feeds.  I'm not sure if I'll be able to pick those up again in
the Mastodon world.

So overall I'm a bit sad at what Musk is doing, as I feel he is taking a
good product and turning it into crap.


On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 12:15 PM Chris Frey <cdfrey at foursquare.net> wrote:

> Ok, but none of that explains, at least to me, why people are jumping
> ship now.  If people don't want to pay for blue checkmarks, they won't.
> As long as the service remains free, they can stay.  So far, I haven't
> seen reports of the fail whale making a comeback, but it's early days.
>
> People seem to be panicking for other reasons than financial stability.
>
> Even so, let's follow the financial argument... if Twitter doesn't make
> money now, who was funding it before?
>
> In other words, why do people care if it is Elon Musk, massive debt,
> irrational exuberance, or the CIA that is funding their free Twitter
> experience, as long as they get to post?
>
> - Chris
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 11:36:22AM -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> > One of the issues is that he bought it on a whim. I saw this described
> as a
> > manchild
> > wanting a toy.
> >
> > He offered a huge sum,  financed the deal himself, while its stock price
> > plummeted,
> > then tried to get out of the deal, then bought it anyway for what he
> > offered initially
> > ($44 billion).
> >
> > He also fired almost all management on day one, so continuity will be an
> > issue.
> >
> > And now, he has to figure out how to make money from it. He is floating
> the
> > idea of
> > charging for the checkmark. The author Stephen King voiced his objection,
> > and
> > Musk tweeted back "How about $8 then"?
> >
> > He does not have a plan or a vision this time, contrary to Tesla and
> SpaceX.
> > Maybe he can turn that around like all the mis-steps with his endeavours
> > before
> > this one, but who knows ...
> >
> > Here is the financing part:
> >
> >
> https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/10/28/how-elon-musk-financed-his-twitter-takeover
>
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