[kwlug-disc] The Fediverse is complicated

[CrankyOldBugger]

I have to agree with you, Doug.  90% of the people I follow on either
Twitter or Mastodon are nerds, so I'm happy if MD was a nerds-only camp.


On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 10:06 AM Doug Moen <doug at moens.org> wrote:

> Isn't Hive Social growing faster than Mastodon, with more users? Hive was
> reported as having 1M users on Nov 21, as having 2M users on Nov 22.
>
> Mastodon is very nerdy and tribal. It is built by nerds, for nerds. The
> complexity of joining and using Mastodon is part of the nerd appeal, but
> for this reason I think it won't be a dominant mass market medium like
> Twitter. Hive Social touts simplicity as its selling point, so I expect it
> or something like it to capture the bulk of users in the long term.
>
> And I think this is fine.
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022, at 8:31 AM, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
>
> Not to steer this conversation a little bit towards the oncoming
> traffic...  But there's an interesting write-up on "why Mastodon may
> succeed where others have failed" on IT World Canada:
> https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/how-mastodon-may-succeed-as-the-twitter-alternative-where-others-have-failed/514395
>
> (my favourite line is, "The big difference is that Twitter is owned and
> controlled by an erratic billionaire. Mastodon has no owner.")
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 11:59 PM Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
>
> Quoting Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc (kwlug-disc at kwlug.org):
>
> > Of course admins *should* do these things, but if they don't know that
> > they should do these things then bad things happen. Sensible defaults
> > matter, and I am not convinced Mastodon got these right.
>
> Valid point.  OTOH, this isn't a first for complicated Internet
> services.  For example, do commodity distro packages for MTAs
> yet bother to provide meaningful antispam defences?  I haven't
> checked in ages, so actually don't know.  Have been simply assuming they
> don't, and build local config to implement local policy.
>
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