[kwlug-disc] Fun video with Linus and Linus
Khalid Baheyeldin
kb at 2bits.com
Mon Dec 1 20:07:29 EST 2025
On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 7:51 PM Chris Frey <cdfrey at foursquare.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 05:49:01PM -0500, Jason Eckert wrote:
> > The reason I prefer this distribution very much mirrors why Linus does -
> > when you use it for a while, you'll appreciate how the Fedora project
> > ensures that everything is both seamless and flexible. For Linus, it's
> easy
> > to run his latest kernel without the distro making it difficult. For me,
> > it's easy to run new things that take a year or two to make their way
> into
> > other distros, and it just works perfectly.
>
> "everything is both seamless and flexible"
>
> Can you give a more detailed example?
>
> It's been a long time since I tried Fedora, and coming from Debian,
> things felt subtly "wrong". :-) But I could have very well missed some
> winning underlying philosophy.
To extrapolate a bit here on what Chris Frey alluded to ...
Those of us who use a Debian based distro with a rich well stocked
repository
can't imagine how we can go back to non-Debian based distros.
Dependency management is a solved problem, and stability trump everything
else.
With Xubuntu (desktop) and Ubuntu Server (on headless machines), I choose
stability over having the latest stuff available, and therefore I go with
the LTS
release. This means if I install, say, 24.04, I know that I will have PHP
8.3 and
will stay with it for at least 2 years until the next LTS release. I can
stay for up
to 5 years if I wanted. The idea here is that major upgrades are less
frequent,
and there are less disruptions from moving to one version of an application
to the next.
Fedora by design strives for the latest stuff, and therefore disruptions
are
expected. That is in addition to being non-Debian.
As for snaps, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Server work fine without them (with the
exception of LXD it seems).
Once you get out of the mindset that Ubuntu = GNOME, you will realize
the appeal of the Ubuntu vast repositories, without snaps or GNOME.
--
Khalid M. Baheyeldin
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